.45 features a 230 projectile that can penetrate a 20-inch ballistic gel at a speed of 262.128 meters per second. projectile can also expand to 61 calibers. On the other hand, the 9mm can penetrate the same ballistic gel at a speed of 288.036 meters per second and can expand to 54 calibers Comparing ballistic performance, the truth is that 9mm and.45 ACP don't necessarily beat one another in any significant way. Again, 9mm tends to be about 16% faster and.45 ACP tends to provide 16% more energy. These differences are marginal at best 9mm vs 45 ACP Ballistics. Before we go much further, we should discuss 9mm vs 45 ballistics, and more importantly, what that information means for you. 9mm Ballistics. An average muzzle velocity of 9mm ammunition, that being the energy the bullet leaves the barrel with, is around 1,200 feet per second (commonly abbreviated as fps or ft/s). This. Winchester 230 gr Ranger T-Series 45 ACP Lucky Gunner Test While the 147gr Federal HST expanded from 9mm (roughly.35cal) to on average 15mm or.61″, the.45 ACP expanded from (again, roughly) 11.5mm to 25mm (.45″ to 1″) Both (roughly!) doubled in sizeand since.45 ACP is bigger to start with, it became massive in the end
Basic Ballistics Now lets talk about wound cavities caused by different caliber handgun rounds. If you notice in the above photo, there is little difference between 9mm, 40 S&W and 45 ACP in regards to both temporary and permanent wound cavities, and overall penetration Results appear in the charts below for .380 ACP, 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP Project Summary Over the last few months, I've been working with the rest of the Lucky Gunner team on another one of our epic experiments, which we're proud to finally unveil: ballistics gelatin testing for over 100 self-defense handgun ammunition loads. 117 to be. If you look at the Lucky Gunner video of the ballistic gelatin testing of these two HST loads, the .45 ACP HST produces a righteous temporary stretch cavity, more so than the 147 grain HST, but I'll take the extra penetration of the 147 grain load. Also, the 147 grain HST is a pussycat to shoot- the lightest recoiling of any 9mm HST load . .45 ACP 230 gr 4 barrel 820 fps (801) 97.6% While we may argue the reasons, the fact is combat soldiers preferred the .45 acp to the 9mm and the troops today want to get rid of the 9mm for a. Left to right: Barnes TAC-XPD .380 ACP, 9mm, and .45 ACP. (Author image.) Ballistic gel is used to test the terminal ballistics of bullets. Protocols are based on the FBI's ammunition tests the agency undertook three decades ago following the Pyrrhic victory of the 1986 FBI Miami Shootout (two agents were killed and five were wounded in a firefight against a pair of serial bank robbers
Shortcuts.22 LR.22 Magnum.25 ACP.32 ACP; 9mm Makarov.380 ACP.32 S&W Long.32 H&R Magnum.327 Federal Magnum; Project Overview. Since the very beginning of the series on pocket pistols that we started running on the Lounge (as well as YouTube) in late 2018, I have promising to add some of the smaller handgun calibers to our ballistic gelatin test project. . Today, we are happy to finally be able. Even in a relatively weak caliber like .380 ACP, an FMJ will easily be able to penetrate 22 to 25 inches of ballistic gelatin — and anything over 18″ is considered an overpenetrating bullet. That's another reason why, in contrast to some other terminal ballistic experts, I consider FMJ's a poor choice for the .380 — they provide weak. The .45 ACP, .40 S&W or 9mm are the most commonly argued for calibers. Hornady's chief ballistician Dave Emery says there's little difference between them. Terminal performance of modern defensive rounds is relatively similar in ballistics gel. Some stick to the .45 ACP — if technology fails, the round still makes a bigger hole Yes, the 9mm Luger shoots a smaller caliber and lighter bullet than the.45 Auto. However, it shoots it much faster, with much less recoil, and 9mm handguns have a higher capacity. Between these two, shot placement and bullet performance will matter more. The more than century-old debate of.45ACP vs 9mm rages on
That how much closer you'd be with a 45 ACP vs a 9mm. With a 40 S&W, you'd be 0.03 of an inch closer than a 9mm. That's only 1/32 of an inch (less than a millimeter) in a 9mm vs 40 S&W. Yes I know, that's only one type of bullet Modern 9mm design innovations give it similar ballistics to the.40 S&W and the.45 ACP but with the benefit of increased magazine capacity over those two cartridges
DoubleTap Ammunition offers both Colt Competition National Match and Colt Defense ammo. Find out more at http://www.doubletapammo.net/.From Guns & Gear® Seas.. But compared to the cheapest .45 ACP ammo, you pay an extra 54.2¢ per round, that's a huge ~127.7% increase in price for an abysmal 11.10% increase in bullet diameter (i.e. the 9mm FTX bullet expands to .50 inch upon impact). It's a negligible terminal performance gain for a significantly higher cost What good is a 10mm in the hands of someone who couldn't hit the side of a barn if they were standing inside the damned barn! todays bullet technology makes the 45 acp, 40 and 9mm equal! Period From left: .45 ACP, .40 S&W, 9mm, .38 Special +P. The top row was fired through bare ballistic blocks, the bottom through heavy clothing. Expansion through heavy clothing proved a bit inconsistent in some calibers. I was able to get samples of all but the .380 to test, and I evaluated them in both bare gel and with the FBI's heavy-clothing. This is due to the greater momentum and increased physical impact to the material provided by the more powerful .45 acp bullet. In properly prepared and calibrated ordnance gelatin using the Q4318 and XM1911 in the Glock G17 and Springfield 5 1911 test pistols both loadings are equal in bare gelatin penetration from 30-55 yards + or - with.
For the purpose of this article, the 9mm NATO M882 is the 'winner' by a 2.03% margin. In the next article, .45ACP vs. 9mm: Part II, the .45ACP and 9mm cartridges will be examined from the standpoint of how the use of expanding designs effects their respective lethality ratings 9mm vs .40 vs .45: Wound Placement In the hunting world, a debate lasted for decades between master hunters Jack O'Connor, who did much to popularize the light, fast .270 Winchester rifle cartridge, and Elmer Keith , who was a vociferous advocate of large calibers and heavy, slow-moving bullets Test Gun: Colt 1911 Government, Defender.Barrel length: 5 and 3 inches.Ammunition: Winchester .45 ACP 230gr JHP.Test media: 10% Vyse Ballistics Gel, Clear Ballistics Gel.Distance: 10 feet.Chronograph: Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph G2.Five shot velocity average: 852fps, 770fpsBB Calibration: 3.5 inches. Most reading this will be familiar with Winchester's budget line of ammo often.
In General. Today on Kentucky Ballistics we shoot some 10% ballistic gel with 10mm and 45 ACP + P. I hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching! Ammunition used in today's video. Underwood Ammo 10mm 180 Grain Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point. Muzzle Velocity 1300 fps. Muzzle Energy 676 ft. lbs. Underwood Ammo 10mm 200 Grain XTP. .62 expansion, 14.5 penetration. .45 ACP: 0.75 expansion, 14.3 penetration. You're looking at 320 ft-lbs vs. 544 ft-lbs with those loads, but as you can see the biggest difference is about 0.12 expansion (which is only slightly bigger than the unexpanded difference of just under 0.1) The 9mm vs 45 acp debate is the Ford vs Chevy of the gun world. Both get the job done in self defense. Both produce similar penetration as well as permanent and temporary wound cavities in ballistic gel with modern JHP ammunition. People will argue for one or the other based on their personal opinions or bias For folks who want a .45 ACP pistol, but don't want to invest the funds and effort into getting a good 1911, they would be better served with a S&W .45 ACP M&P, HK45, S&W 4566, or possibly the SA .45 ACP XD. Whatever you choose, make sure you fire at least 500 and preferably 1000 failure free shots through your pistol prior to using it for duty They are pretty similar when identical bullet styles are compared. For instance, military style FMJ 9mm loads typically produce around 340-360 ft.-lbs. of energy at the muzzle, whereas the same bullet style in the vaunted, legendary .45 ACP produc..
9mm vs. the 45. I just have to comment, to set the record straight. I am a combat veteran and I have used both 9mm and 45 caliber on the enemy. Pistols are used at close range to no range. The 9mm is a supersonic light weight bullet. When it hits a person unless it is a hollow point, it will go right through them most of the time Welcome to SanctionedSuicide, a pro-choice forum for the discussion of mental illness and suicide. Please read our rules and our Principles . If you are in need of immediate support, please call the Samaritans hotline at (877) 870-4673, or check our recovery resources . 9mm vs 45acp. Thread starter lordofbody Having had lots of time with all 3 (9mm, 40 s&w and 45acp) yes the 9 is easier to fire and carries more ammo but in my experience you need that extra ammo to stop the threat. Having fired 45 ACP and 9mm at human targets the 9 took 3 sometimes 4 hits c.o.m. to stop the threat. With the 45 2 at most Now for the geeks who want to crunch some numbers. Fired from a Glock 30 Gen 4 that weighs 1.64 lbs, for a .45 ACP cartridge using about 8.5 grains of Power Pistol to propel a 230-grain bullet at a speed of ~850 feet per second, I get a recoil velocity of 19.99 feet per second and a recoil energy of 10.18 foot-pounds of force.. On the 9mm side of things, fired from a Glock 26 Gen 4 that weighs. The 9mm loads were kept to standard-pressure configurations for the same reasons, although Bond Arms approves its 9mm barrels for +P ammo. Recoil was slightly less than the .45 ACP, allowing for a quicker recovery. Accuracy was more than adequate, with five-shot averages falling into groups between 2.63 and 3.99 inches for both calibers
It means that when it comes to 9mm vs .45 stopping power, the advantage that standard-pressure .45 ACP enjoys over 9mm is around 50 to 75 ft lbs more energy, and up to a whopping 0.3 inches (at most) of expansion. And, since handguns are pipsqueaks in the world of bullets, that means the difference is basically bupkis Best .45 ACP Home Defense Loads: 1. Federal Premium 230-grain Hydra-Shok Tactical . Just like the 9mm, the bigger brother in .45 ACP performed amazingly. Expansion was even more significant with the larger bullet. The bullet, after penetrating 12 of gel, was stopped by the first interior wall and was found lying on the ground Two different rounds=Two different sounds 9X19mm 124gr NATO 1200+fps (slightly over the speed of sound) .45acp 230gr ball 830 fps (up to 950 fps from a carbine length barrel, well under the speed of sound) The 9X19mm tends to be a BANG/CRACK kind.
The cavitation of the .45 round is very serious when viewing ballistics gel (and reading autopsy reports) comparing the 9mm and .45. If the round is 'not' placed in the kill zone, lets say leg, the cavitation and hole of the larger round would be more likely to incapacitate or strike a artery than a smaller round would .45 ACP. 20 years ago, this debate was moot, as the .45 was simply superior in capability, while the 9mm had an advantage in magazine capacity. Today, with advancements in modern ammunition, the gap in capabilities between these two calibers has narrowed greatly
The team at AmmunitionToGo.com just published a massive resource that includes ballistic testing data for 109 different self-defense loads, covering four of the most popular calibers out there today - 9mm, .45 ACP, .40 S&W, and .380 Auto.. In the test, they used firearms commonly associated with concealed carrying American civilians. The test results are meant to provide a snapshot of data. Comparing the terminal performance of five of the best 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 Auto loads, the differences are minimal. The 9mm has a slight edge in penetration, the .45 a slight edge in expansion, and the .40 S&W is sort of a compromise. Obviously, the slighter 9mm edges out the .40 S&W and .45 ACP in terms of capacity and loaded weight. Capacity
The 45 ACP's slow muzzle velocity does convey its chief shortcoming, however: Its trajectory is far from flat, with an average of 15 to 20 bullet drop at 100 yards. Comparisons to 9mm Ammo. The 45 ACP has become less popular than the 9mm for a number of other reasons. It is larger, and thus reduces magazine capacity and complicates mass. The single 230-gr. .45 ACP fired into gel only came out weighing 229.6 grains, while the two bullets fired into the cloth-cover gel registered 229.22-grains and 229.74-grains Short fat & slow. More than a caliber, a way of life
Lucky Gunner tests more than 110 different 9mm, 45 ACP, 40 S&W and 380 ACP handgun self-defense ammunition loads in ballistic gel with analysis and video. www.luckygunner.com Reactions: Al414 and Jennifer But gun people tend to be equipment junkies, so they split hairs on things like 9mm vs. 45, and the rifle guys still have .270 vs. .30-06 discussions. Re: 9mm VS 45 ACP [ Re: 458 Lott ] #8900065 05/28/1 . Those old guns were scary. At the time, the 45acp was nearly the most powerful handgun made, wow how far we've come. The 45 was touted as a true man-killer and a capable hunting pistol for deer and black bear, and the only ammo was FMJ Orange County. Criticalt said: A 45 will not spin you like a top but it does have more force than a 9mm when it hits flesh and bone. I have a .38 a 9mm, 10mm, 45, and 357. I trust all of them with my life because of ammo choice and shot placement. Ammo manufacturers make deadly ammo for most calibers
9mm vs .40 S&W vs .45 ACP. Jump to Latest Follow 21 - 30 of 30 Posts. Prev. 1; 2; First 2 of 2 Go to page. Go. RandallOfLegend · Registered. Today on Kentucky Ballistics we shoot pine boards with 9mm, 40 S&W, 45 ACP and 10mm! Which caliber will make it through the most boards? I hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching! A special thanks to Underwood Ammunition! Ammunition used in today's video. Remington 9mm 124 Grain Full Metal Jacket Muzzle Velocity 1100 fp 9mm training ammo gives you a significant per-round cost savings compared to .45 training ammo (the cost difference is less between factory self-defense ammo for the two calibers; and reloading can cut costs for .45 more than it can for 9mm) A 1911 in 9mm gives you 2-3 rounds more per magazine than in .45, depending on which magazines are compared
The most complete 45 GAP ammuntion ballistics. Compare 45 GAP ammunition manufacturers on one easy chart. All the ballistics from all manufacturers, finally... in one place. Handgun Ballistics 380 ACP 9mm Luger 357 Magnum 357 SIG 38 Special 38 Super 40 S&W 10mm Auto: 41 Magnum 44 Magnum 44 Special 45 ACP 45 GAP 45 Colt 454 Casull 460 Magnum. 9mm - 60 grains, rated at 2010 fps. .40 S&W - 77 grains, rated at 2100 fps. .45 ACP - 90 grains, rated at 2036 fps. This ammo is said to be Ultra High Performance Center Fire Pistol Ammo, Blended Metal Technology, Ultra High Velocity/Energy, Low Recoil, Superior Stopping Power, Nonricochetting. That's a mouth full
9mm vs. 40 S&W vs. 357 Sig vs. 45 Auto vs 10mm Liberty Ammunition Short Barrel Ballistics Gel Test .41 Magnum 10 Inch Thompson Contender 210gr Underwood JHP Sig Sauer 60gr 223 HP Review with 16 and 18 AR 15 9mm Makarov Results in fps. Click here for a Muzzle Energy graph for the tests in this caliber. BBTI is not the end-all of ballistics testing, just one more component available for the common good. In addition to extensive discussion about ballistics to be found at many gun forums, here are some other great resources pertaining to ballistics. The .38 Special and 9mm are the same size bullet as far as I am concerned. Yes, the same size. They are within two thousandths of an inch of each other. The .38 Special measures .357 in diameter. The 9mm measures .355 in diameter. The slight difference in diameter is not relevant to any degree worth debating The calibers included were .38 Special, 9mm Luger, .357 Magnum and .45 ACP. The .40 S & W was yet to come, so, yes, this was some time ago. While the results of the study are valid, the study, which was conducted by a respected researcher and the records were available to interested researchers, also included hit probability Videos from Liberty Ammunition about Low Recoil Ammo - Liberty Ammunition civil defense ammo, videos from the Sportman's Shop, leads free & low recoil ammo. Civil Defense 45 ACP vs Bare Gel. Civil Defense 9mm vs Bare Gel+Denim. Civil Defense 9mm vs Wall. Civil Defense 380 vs Bare Gel
That is to say, Hornady built the ammo performance envelope around the FBI tests. The Critical Duty ammo was initially available in two 9mm loads and one .40 S&W load. Since then, the line expanded to include the .45 ACP, 10mm, .357 SIG, and most recently the .357 Magnum. A .380 ACP load has been rumored but has not yet appeared Both of these bullets are hollow point in order to show a closer comparison of bullets in different calibers. The 9mm TAC-XPD is 115 grain and has 1125fps velocity while the .45 acp Pow'RBall 50 grains heavier at 165 grains and has 1225 fps velocity. The 9mm is shot with a Sig Sauer P320 RX and the .45acp is shot with Caspian 1911 After all, there is the classic 9mm vs. .45 ACP debate. But to say the 40 or 45 is inferior to a 9 is just wishful thinking you can see in all the ballistic gel test when hit with a 40 or 45 the whole thing jumps not so with the 9 penetration it does all right if using +p+P or what ever, Then they say the 40 is hard on a gun, I happen to.
Ammo tested will be (notice the 9mm and .45 ACP loads are comparable by weight and brand. I chose Gold Dots for light for caliber results since they seem to do best in gel at lighter weights while the HST tends to do well at heavy for caliber weights): 9mm 147 gr Federal HST. .45 ACP 230 gr Federal HST 45 acp vs 9mm ballistics.45 ACP vs 9mm: 14 Experts Give Their Answers - Ballistic. Reason: Current 9mm ammunition has more consistent and better barrier penetration than.45 ACP. The.45 ACP is probably a bit better in terms of a larger wound cavity if no barrier is involved. If a barrier is involved, a 9mm +P load is superior a 9MM bullet that penetrated roughly equal depth to a .45 ACP round indeed has less kinetic energy than a .45 round, and less momentum as well because of the need for the .45 to displace more gelatin, or tissue in a real world application
The .45 is a real hoot to shoot, and is a whole different animal than .40 or recoil. I have both of the above mentioned guns, and carry them easily in appendix position. The ammo for .45 is more expensive to buy, but reloads are not much more than 9mm reloads, so practice time doesn't really break the bank But it's not like 9mm is better than it ever was. There's new bullet technology- for all calibers- and still each individual picks the gun/ammo they believe will do the job. But today's .45 acp and 9mm are very similar to the BALLISTICS from the early 1900's with some advances in bullet technology on all sides
The .45 ACP bullets weigh in at 78 grains as compared to a more traditional weight range of 185 to 230 grains. The result is blistering speed. The 9mm ammo is factory rated at 2,000 feet per second while the .45 claims 1,900 feet per second. Even with those velocities, recoil is shockingly light, owing to the superlight bullets Warmer months I'll carry something with higher capacity 10+ rounds in .40 S&W, 10mm or .45 ACP. We also have some revolver affectionados. 9mm vs. 45 ACP boils down to the .38/.357 vs. .44 debate. I haven't see a thread on it but I am sure one exists on some pro-CCW forum Rangework. I decided to test the four brands of fluted ammo currently on the market — Inceptor and NovX (using the ARX bullet), Black Hills and Underwood (using Lehigh's fluted bullet). All four companies offer 9mm cartridges and three of the four make .45 ACP. As of this writing, NovX has not released a .45 ACP offering In fact, the above graph includes a hodge-podge of .22 long rifle, .32 acp, .380 acp, 9mm Luger and .45 acp. The graph below shows the data points identified by caliber: once again this is in gel. no clothing, leather jackets, car window saftet glass etc to slow down the big fat heavy bullets In addition to simply meeting the supply and demand chain, ammo prices play a part. Shooters were once turned off by the Special and 10mm cartridges simply because they could get 9mm and .45 ACP.